resolution troubles

[chikid68]

I am working on my girlfriends pc which is an E machines t3120 with onboard video supplied by an Nvidea geforce 6100 the motherboard is
First International Computer, Inc. K8MC51G
the problem it is having is that with several of the games that we have installed I receive a messege about the resolution out of range.
I have reinstalled the driver for the video several times and even reinstalled direct X 9.0 on the machine and it seems that every time the computer has to reboot the problem recurrs even with system restore turned off.
What would be causing this and how do I correct the problem.
Thanks in advance for any help

[biggles77]

What size monitor (is it LCD or CRT)?
What resolution are your running it at?
What refresh rate are you using?
What are the games?
What resolution are you using when running the games?

Oh yes, please don't post in red again, it is hard to read. Thanks.

[davey6]

dam that red is very hard to read.
mind you so is yellow


welcome to my site chikid68

[chikid68]

The standard CRT monitor that was with it from the factory.
the model number is Eview 17f3 and it is running at 70 Hz and 32 bit the resolution is set at 1024x768.
The games I am having trouble with the most is Jewel Quest (she likes that 1 ) and Cabelas Big game hunter 2006 season (for me).
All the other games we have on it seem to do fine as do these if I reinstall the video drivers but as soon as I reboot the problem returns.
And yes before you ask I have run scans for virus and spyware and the system is clean there.
BTW Davey thanks for the welcome.
I had to come here as soon as I found this url while at driverzone.
Dont feel left out Biggles I joined yours too. LOL
I forgot to mention that the Os was xp sp2
after all between you 2 you have helped me with several computers these last few years :thankyou:

[davey6]

standard ctr run best at 75 or 85 hz as that will match the mains hum.

if its just the games giving you problem go in to the game settings and tell it to use the default for the system,
some games have a pre set which is why your getting this error , the game is setting its self to high for your monitor to display the picture.

btw its not the video card its the monitor.

is there a model number on the monitor ? i will try and look it up and see what is the max it can do for you.
yes well i set this site up to stop people sending me emails and you can see for yourself what happend, its turned in to a full time site for me, i spend much more time here then i do at driverzone now.

nothing flash just a basic board and site which i think people like as they don't have all the ads in the way, if you have any ideas about this site or biggles lets us know after all this is my first time building sites for us and we do like feedback on what people like or don't like.

[chikid68]

standard ctr run best at 75 or 85 hz as that will match the mains hum.

if its just the games giving you problem go in to the game settings and tell it to use the default for the system,
some games have a pre set which is why your getting this error , the game is setting its self to high for your monitor to display the picture.

btw its not the video card its the monitor.

is there a model number on the monitor ? i will try and look it up and see what is the max it can do for you.
yes well i set this site up to stop people sending me emails and you can see for yourself what happend, its turned in to a full time site for me, i spend much more time here then i do at driverzone now.

there is not a model number on the monitor itself,according to PC wizard(a great program)here is a summary of the results


PC Wizard 2007 Version 1.73
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Owner:
User: Owner
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Report Date: Sunday 12 August 2007 at 15:10

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<<< System Summary >>>

> Manufacturer : eMachines (Model T3120)

> Mainboard : First International Computer, Inc. K8MC51G

> Chipset : nVidia nForce 430

> Processor : AMD Sempron 3100+ @ 1800 MHz

> Physical Memory : 512 MB (1 x 512 DDR-SDRAM )

> Video Card : Nvidia Corp GeForce 6100

> Hard Disk : ST3100011A (100 GB)

> Hard Disk : WDC (14 GB)

> DVD-Rom Drive : HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4482B

> CD-Rom Drive : Memorex 52MAXX 2452AJ

> DVD-Rom Drive : NERO IMAGEDRIVE2 SCSI CdRom Device

> DVD-Rom Drive : NERO IMAGEDRIVE2 SCSI CdRom Device

> Monitor Type : eView 17f3 - 16 inches

> Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2

> DirectX : Version 9.0c (July 2007)

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***** End of report *****
If it is not the video card how come the games work when I reinstall the drivers for it until the next reboot?

[davey6]

because just after you install your video card drivers windows will find and load up a default monitor driver.

now that is a very odd ctr as emachines list this.
Resolution: 1280 ? 1024 @ 60Hz
what they don't list is a driver or if the monitor is plug and play
if a game goes above that you will get the resolution out of range error.
like i said very strange monitor,
go into display settings , advanced , monitor
tell windows its using 60hz.
then put a tick in the box that say's hide res this monitor can not display.

also just make sure your direct x is fully up to date, that will help time the whole computer up.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/detai...18CDEAC197&displaylang=en

see if that stops the fault.

[davey6]

ok after reading a few review pages this model suffers from a bad power button and is plug and play.

[chikid68]

because just after you install your video card drivers windows will find and load up a default monitor driver.

now that is a very odd ctr as emachines list this.
Resolution: 1280 ? 1024 @ 60Hz
what they don't list is a driver or if the monitor is plug and play
if a game goes above that you will get the resolution out of range error.
like i said very strange monitor,
go into display settings , advanced , monitor
tell windows its using 60hz.
then put a tick in the box that say's hide res this monitor can not display.

also just make sure your direct x is fully up to date, that will help time the whole computer up.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/detai...18CDEAC197&displaylang=en

see if that stops the fault.

ok I tried the rate and resolution that you said and the same messege but this time I wasnt able to get back in using ctrl alt del so I had to shut down hard(I hate having to do that) but when the thing booted back I reinstalled the driver and opened the 2 games and manually changed the size settings so hopefully this will work .
I am also going to try another monitor on this thing and see what happens .
BTW the monitor si plug and play but uses the invidea settings to set it so I may also try using msconfig to disable the nvidea program and see if they work using the standard windows settings .

[chikid68]

well it is doing the same thing with a different monitor and I have tried 3 different monitors and they all do the same thing although I know they are all plug and play.they all do this regardless of the refresh rate or resolution settings.
THis whole ordeal has me about ready to garb my favorite tool from the box.
THis being the Bfh.
Stands for big F*&^$ng hammer.

[davey6]

no no no, a hammer does not fix a problem , take it from someone that punched a hole in a lcd screen and sent it flying across the room in a fit of temper.

give me a while to check up at emachines i will try and find as many update drivers as i can for your motherboard./ video card

you can tell the nvidia driver to use what resolution settings you like from its own control panel in the advanced display settings.
download this little program and keep it safe i will get you to use it a little later.
http://www.davesdrivers.com/forum/showth...hp?tid=287

[chikid68]

ok I just downloaded Guru and wont even attempt to try it until you tell me what to do with it.
BUt you've got ta admit I have come a long way from my first posts at driverzone although Biggles might know that better since she used to be the main one replying to my threads there. At least now I am no longer scared of these machines. And for that I thank you guys.
In fact I am even considering going back to school and getting my A++ certification.

[davey6]

ok had time to do a little checking for you now.

that machine has the nforce 4 series chipset in it.

so this is the most up to date driver for your chipset.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_nf4_winxp32_8.26_11.09.html

and this is the most up to date driver for your video card.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_162.18.html

now what you have to do is this.

go in to add remove programs and remove the nvidia display driver.
restart the pc and let it find a standard vga and load up a driver to support that.
restart once more.

now install the driver remover from guru.

open up that little program ,
in the left hand list select the nvidia display, and then click >

then select the first icon that list's run sweeper.
that will remove any left over files from the uninstall and give you a clean system to install the new driver.

if that still fails to get this fault , try do the same thing with the display and the chipset driver.

please note this.
its important you use add remove programs first, don't just use the sweeper as when you restart you will be looking at a black screen.

spell checker nah don't use them just goes to prove that i am human if i mis-spell things, mind you my spelling has never been the best in the world.

[chikid68]

Davet you are brilliant it is working perfectly again even with the refresh rate set at 75 hertz. the video driver you sent the link to was the 1 That I had alraedy but evidently it wasnt getting fully removed when I kept having to reinstall. there must have been something in the registry that was keeping it from going in clean but GURU seems to have fixed that :thankyou:
Brilliant as usual

[davey6]

good , glad to help out , i will be here if you ever get stuck again