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SATA Drivers for XP Install on HP dv2550se
#1
Hi,

I have a HP dv2550se laptop with Vista installed. I really want to install XP on it too. (I know that generally XP should go on first and then Vista but I don't have any Vista disk and I think I can get Vista to boot after installing XP with Vista Boot Pro or something similar). The laptop has an SATA drive which I've never had before so my XP install cd doesn't work. I think I can include the drivers for it on a custom install cd though... Is this true? If so, can anyone help me find the right drivers? Here, from the Vista device manager, are the device names I think are relevant:

Under Disk drives:
ST9160821AS (I think that's Seagate)

Under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers:
Intel 82801 HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller
Intel ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controller 2850

Under Storage controllers:
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator

Please let me know if I can provide any more useful information.
Thanks for your help!
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#2
the laptop is based on the intel express 965 chipset.
the sata install drivers can be downloaded from intel at this link.
( towards the bottom of the page )
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_r...bmit=Go%21

now the best way to install these is to use usb floppy drive as the intel program will make the disk for you and xp looks for a floppy as default.
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#3
davey6 Wrote:the laptop is based on the intel express 965 chipset.
the sata install drivers can be downloaded from intel at this link.
( towards the bottom of the page )
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_r...bmit=Go%21

now the best way to install these is to use usb floppy drive as the intel program will make the disk for you and xp looks for a floppy as default.

Thanks for your quick reply! I presume it's number 9 in the search results? I don't have a USB Floppy Drive. Is it possible to extract the drivers and include them on a custom install cd?

Thanks again!
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#4
you will find that xp will look for a floppy disk " a" when you try to install those drivers.
you can try putting them onto a bootable cdrom, but xp may not look at the disk and keep asking you to put in a floppy,
I did try once to put them onto a usb memory pen but xp did not want to install from that disk.
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#5
dam net dropped half way in the reply i am suprised it posted anything. bah!

anyway have a read of this it will tell you how to add the sata drivers to your windows xp install.
I have never done it this way myself but it should get you out of trouble.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/How-To-...stallation
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#6
davey6 Wrote:dam net dropped half way in the reply i am suprised it posted anything. bah!

anyway have a read of this it will tell you how to add the sata drivers to your windows xp install.
I have never done it this way myself but it should get you out of trouble.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/How-To-...stallation

Thanks again! I think I can integrate them with nlite. I've done things like that before. I just need to get them out of the .exe. Maybe I could make a floppy on my desktop with the Intel tool and then copy them off the floppy? Is there an easier way to extract them from the .exe? Do you think those are the only drivers I need for the XP cd to recognise the hard drive?

Cheers!
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#7
I cheated for you Grin

I just made the floppy on my desktop, copied all files from that floppy and put them in to one folder and zipped it.

you will find it on the bottom of this post.

should be all you need to install xp.

now if you want to do a dual boot but keep vista please follow this guide which i have followed myself once and it does work ,
just don't rush it read and do at the same time if its possible, that way you can double check on what your doing.
http://www.syschat.com/dual-boot-vista-x...-1946.html


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#8
davey6 Wrote:I cheated for you Grin

I just made the floppy on my desktop, copied all files from that floppy and put them in to one folder and zipped it.

you will find it on the bottom of this post.

should be all you need to install xp.

now if you want to do a dual boot but keep vista please follow this guide which i have followed myself once and it does work ,
just don't rush it read and do at the same time if its possible, that way you can double check on what your doing.
http://www.syschat.com/dual-boot-vista-x...-1946.html

Thanks very much! I really appreciate your help! I had already done the same thing myself though. I made the floppy with the Intel tool and copied them back to the hard drive as I suggested above. I didn't know the tool actually contained the drivers initially - I thought it would ask me to point it at them and then create the floppy. It was easy to integrate the right driver (Intel 82801 HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller) on a custom install cd with nLite. XP installed with no problems using this cd. I used Vista Boot Pro to restore Vista's bootloader and add XP to the OS list. XP and Vista both boot now. I just have to find some other drivers for XP... the following are missing drivers according to XP's Device Manager. I've written what each is or what I think each is in brackets...

Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus
(Conexant High Definition Audio)

Base System Device
Base System Device
Base System Device
(I don't know what these are)

Ethernet Controller
(Marvell Yukon 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller or perhaps Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection. Probably the Marvell?)

Modem Device on High Definition Audio Bus
(HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP)

Network Controller
(Marvell Yukon 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller or perhaps Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection. Not sure about Ethernet/Network controller really. Maybe Ethernet is the Marvell and Network is the Intel?)

SM Bus Controller
(I don't know what this is)

Video Controller
Video Controller (VGA Compatible)
(Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family)


I noticed this page on your forum... http://www.davesdrivers.com/forum/showth...hp?tid=322

Perhaps some of those drivers would be useful to me? If not, perhaps you could point me in the right direction? If I/we get everything working.. I'd be glad to post detailed instructions for others. Thanks again for all your help!!!
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#9
Ok so after a bit of digging around I got everything working except for these:

Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus
(Conexant High Definition Audio)

Base System Device
Base System Device
Base System Device
(I don't know what these are)

Modem Device on High Definition Audio Bus
(HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP)

SM Bus Controller
(I don't know what this is)

Unknown Device
(I'm not sure if this just showed up or if I missed it the first time around)

Can you help me out on these ones? Cheers!
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#10
ok you have just run head long in to the same problems as everyone else with these laptops.

hp do not like you downgrading them so they are not much help.
have a read of the following post's
this is all the work i have done to date on this problem ( there is alot of reading sorry )

but before you carry on just make sure of the following.

you have service pack 2 installed on xp
direct x is fully up to date
motherboard drivers are install ( in your case thats intel express 965 inf file )

intel INF file http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_D...l&lang=eng


thats everything i have to date on this problem
http://www.davesdrivers.com/forum/showth...hp?tid=322
its worth trying some of those drivers once you have the above updated

use what vista knows. its holding all the keys to take the guess work out of your unknown device , base system device ( i think that the motherboard drivers )
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#11
Cheers for that! I did read some threads on other forums where some people had the same problems yeah. They didn't say if they managed to install all of the drivers or not though.
I integrated Service Pack 2 on the install cd too so that's installed. I think I installed DirectX 9.0c first too. I can't quite remember. I'll double check later. I'm probably gonna install XP and run through everything again anyway cos I tried a few different Conexant Audio drivers which were really buggy. Installing the Intel INF file last did fix the Sm Bus Controller but nothing else. I've been looking at the Vista Device Manager too but I don't really know what type of device a "Base System Device" is. It's too vague! I know the Card Reader hasn't had any drivers installed on XP yet so it could be that. Is a Card Reader a Base System Device though? Doesn't really sound like it! I may have everything I need installed anyway... I just don't know. I need the XP installation for audio work. I have an external soundcard which I'm sure will install fine. I'd like to have the Conexant card available too but it's not necessarily crucial. I'm just worried that leaving these unknown devices driverless will cause instability.
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#12
I found the best trick is to install xp with sp2
update your direct x as soon as possible.
then fully update windows using windows update.
then install your motherboard drivers .
then move on to sound, gfx, cardreaders, bluetooth, wifi, hotkeys e.t.c

a system base could be anything built on the motherboard, even a wifi if windows xp does not fully understand , it can be classed as unknown system base device.

it won't really make the system unstable you will just go to use something one day and think oh thats what it was lol

I have done a two hp's myself now and you do run in to problems with that sound but the best way to match up the driver is look over the old models and try to match your chipset+cpu+sound

i will give you another tip as well that hp keep in a nice dark place.
if you look over there business end laptops they are still supporting even the brand new ones with xp.
its worth a look to see if any are a close match to yours.
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#13
davey6 Wrote:I found the best trick is to install xp with sp2
update your direct x as soon as possible.
then fully update windows using windows update.
then install your motherboard drivers .
then move on to sound, gfx, cardreaders, bluetooth, wifi, hotkeys e.t.c

a system base could be anything built on the motherboard, even a wifi if windows xp does not fully understand , it can be classed as unknown system base device.

it won't really make the system unstable you will just go to use something one day and think oh thats what it was lol

I have done a two hp's myself now and you do run in to problems with that sound but the best way to match up the driver is look over the old models and try to match your chipset+cpu+sound

i will give you another tip as well that hp keep in a nice dark place.
if you look over there business end laptops they are still supporting even the brand new ones with xp.
its worth a look to see if any are a close match to yours.

Yeah I would normally install things in the order you suggested but because i'm in somewhat unknown territory here, I kind of planned this install as a testing ground for all the different drivers. I don't mind if anything breaks at this point so I'm just trying each driver as I get it. I think the three Base System Devices are related to the Card Reader after all. I ran a program called Unknown Device Identifier (catchy eh?) and in this program under each of the three Base System Device entries, it says "Chip: Ricoh Co. Ltd." I know the Card Reader is made by Ricoh so I think that probably solves that. I suppose it could be the webcam too seeing as Ricoh is a camera company. At least I know it's not an essential device anyway. I'll scour the HP sites (and the net in general) for close matches for the audio card and card reader. Perhaps the Vista drivers might work in some cases? Thanks for all your help!
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#14
vista drivers work for somethings if installed by device manager , don't use the self install.
card readers do load that way as does, bluetooth and some built in cams.

that Ricoh card reader is very common in laptops and i know the so called vista driver does have the files needed for xp, its just the self install that stops it.

what i would do if you have the time that is.
download what drivers you want now, make a load of empty folders on your desk top.
try installing the spXXXX drivers for what ever device , just take notice of where its being unpacked.
change the default to one of your own folders so it unpacks all the driver files.
rename that folder to what ever you just tried , then save it to cdrom.

if you do it that way you won't mess up a clean install of xp by trying install after install.
update driver from device manager will pick any files it feels it can use.
keeps the system clean if it don't work.
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#15
Success! I downloaded the Vista drivers for the Ricoh Card Reader and extracted them to a folder. Within this folder, there was an x86 folder. In the x86 folder, there were MMC, MS and xD folders. These correspond to the three Base System Devices with missing drivers. You just need to go to Device Manager and choose Update Driver for each of the three Base System Devices and point it at the MMC, MS or xD folder. Like you said, it won't install anything if you choose the wrong folder. Just try each one until it finds the right one. Then repeat the process for the other two. I might try the same with the audio driver. Thanks again... you've been very helpful.
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#16
the sound driver should install from device manager, just as long as you load up the microsoft unversal driver first.
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#17
Ok I finally got everything working. Here's how to dual boot XP and Vista on the HP dv2550se...

Download the Intel floppy creation utility which includes the SATA driver you'll need:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_D...8&lang=eng

Make the floppy and extract the drivers, then integrate the driver on a custom XP install cd using nLite (http://www.nliteos.com). There are plenty of guides on how to do this.

In Vista, right click ?Computer? and choose ?Manage?. Here you can resize your Vista partition and create a new NTFS Logical partition in the empty space. Install XP on the new partition.

When it's installed, in Windows Explorer go to Tools - Folder Options - View and choose to show hidden files and show protected operating system files. Then copy the boot folder, boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM, bootmgr and ntldr from the root of your Vista partition to the root of your XP partition.

Now download and install Microsoft's .NET Framework 2.0
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/detai...laylang=en

Next download and install Vista Boot Pro:
http://www.vistabootpro.org/

Open Vista Boot Pro and make a backup of your BCD file as instructed. Now go to ?System Bootloader ?and check "Windows Vista Bootloader". In the "Install Options", choose to install to a "Specific Drive? and choose your "C" drive. Click "Install Bootloader"
Next go to "Manage OS Entries" and add an entry for XP, choosing "D" as your "Boot Drive". Click ?Apply Updates?. Now XP and Vista should be bootable. You can set which is the default to boot and how long you should have to choose an OS here too.

Next, download and install Microsoft's DirectX 9.0c.
http://filehippo.com/download_directx/

Now download and install the Intel GM965 Chipset Driver, GM965 Graphics Driver & the Matrix Storage Manager. You can get them all here (top row):
http://support.intel.com/support/graphic...025753.htm

Reboot if needs be.

Get the Marvell Ethernet Adapter driver here:
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverDis...=175&pId=6

Get the Intel Wireless Adapter driver here:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_r...bmit=Go%21

Install the two network adapter drivers.

Next, download the Ricoh Card Reader drivers for Vista:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softw...93&lang=en

Extract them to a folder, then use the drivers in the x86 folder to install each "Base System Device" manually using Device Manager... Right click "My Computer", go to the "Hardware" tab and choose "Device Manager". Scroll down til you see the three "Base System Devices".
Right click the first "Base System Device" and choose to ?Update driver?. Choose "No, not at this time" and click next, then choose ?Install from a list or specific location? and click next. De-check ?Search removable media? and check ?Include this location in the search?. Browse to the MS folder within the x86 and install click next. Now repeat this process for the second ?Base System Device?, this time choosing the MMC folder as the search location. Now do it for the third, choosing the xD folder as the search location.

Download and install the Microsoft Universal Audio Architecture before installing the audio driver:
http://ftp.ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp3350...p33867.exe

Download and install this Conexant HD Audio Driver:
http://ftp.ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp3400...p34386.exe

Download and extract the Vista Conexant Modem drivers and run the ?Setup.exe? in the V32 folder:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softw...93&lang=en

Download and install the HP Quicklaunch Buttons:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softw...28&lang=en

That should be the final missing device in Device Manager:

The Lightscribe Software and the HP Software Updater and Wireless Assistant aren't really necessary but you can get them at:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softw...53&lang=en

Hope that helps!
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#18
thanks for that may help others.

one quick note anyone downloading from hp ftp site please make sure you virus scan the files i have seen virus attacks come from hp ftp server.
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#19
Really? That's interesting! How does that happen do you think? Thanks for your help too by the way. Hopefully having all of the information in one place will help some others.
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#20
some people just like to find a hole , the fact hp don't check that ftp server that much does not help.
even this site was hacked , i noticed it straight away and got rid of all files in fact i deleted the whole forum folder from host and loaded up a backup just to be on the safe side.

sometimes people will find the odd post or member missing thats where i have downloaded the whole forums and virus checked them and spyware checked it and uploaded it back to site.
i feel much better doing it that way , i know its not really needed but i like to know my members and help site are safe.

thats another reason why the email and pm system is shut down fully on here, i have seen the search engine bots try and send a email or pm, i know some people think its a pain having that shut but i feel its better that way to stop spam or worse.
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